Ponzi Scams: Dirty Little Secrets part 2
by 
Mark on August 14th, 2007
continued part 2 of 2
Here is one called, A3Union, that has been around since mid year 2006 and continues to rake in money:
“A3Union constantly manages investment relationships with over twenty high yield investment partnerships in six countries…..In addition to the company’s solid coverage of the European and US high yield investment markets, we are currently planning to open a global agent network worldwide.”
Name Term Interest Total Return Aggressive Portfolio 2 days 1.6% 101.6% Classic Portfolio 7 days 12% 112% Combined Portfolio 14 days 28% 128% Long Term Classic Portfolio 92 days 200% 300%
This Ponzi will continue to exist as long as it has fresh suckers to put in money. How is that money deposited? A3Union accepts three digital gold currencies: e-gold, e-Bullion and Pecunix.
A week, a month or perhaps another year from now this one will be gone. It will eventually reach a tipping point where the operators have less investor funds coming in than they would like to pay out in interest and the operation will fold, taking with them all the proceeds they have not stolen along the way.
I’m sure other Ponzi operations vary with their operator’s experience but here is one scammer’s description of how he works it….Confessions Of An HYIP Scammer, How Does He Do It?
Remember a critical description of a Ponzi, if the web does NOT create more legit daily income from an actual business - than it receives in daily investor sucker ‘victim’ deposits, its a Ponzi. Don’t fall prey to these Internet scams.
Stay tuned for a lot more information on A3Union later this week and the next. P…maybe for Ponzi, but S….is for Scam!
I’m happy to say that other digital currency industry leaders like Webmoney do not allow such ‘investment’ schemes to use their payment system.
If you don’t believe what I have written here or want to learn more I encourage you to simply query Google Blog Search with keyword ‘e-gold‘ or do a Google Web Search for ‘HYIP‘ or ‘e-gold investment‘. You will find hundreds if not thousands of the HYIP Ponzi programs that accept e-gold and other digital gold currency. I’m not happy about it but I’m not lying either. Many Ponzi scams accept e-bullion and as shown above some even Pecunix.
Occasionally you will see ‘Pecunix accepted here‘ however that operator has stated on more than one occasion he discourages HYIP accounts and also works aggressively to prevent the misuse of Pecunix by online ‘investment’ schemes. We are all glad to hear that and I have seen evidence to support that comment. However, it is still easy to locate HYIP Ponzi scams that accept these last two currencies. A simple Google Blog Search with their namesake as the keyword turns up 2 or 3 new scams each month.
You will find a majority of Ponzi ‘investments’ are being promoted by ‘investment’ forums or blogs like these. Note the referral code on each link throughout these web sites.
- Online Money Making Forum - http://www.moneyfanclub.com
- MMG Latest Network Marketing News - http://www.moneymakergroup.com/
- E-Gold HYIP Forum - http://www.talkgold.com/
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20 opinions for Ponzi Scams: Dirty Little Secrets part 2
Aug 14, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Right. I have long warned people on A3Union here, but got beaten the crap out of ‘investors’ who got paid regularly from the ponzi scheme.
Its interesting to note on human psychology on how people react to after getting paid a little, and then got walloped with nothing but a mere huge lost. Why not gamble in casino? It’s much faster that way.
Thanks for the interesting post related to our field in hyip blog.
Aug 15, 2007 at 2:37 am
IT´s clearly a ponzi scheme managed by russian boys as it was stated in some errors that they made before.
Aug 15, 2007 at 2:29 pm
This article neglects to mention the crucial fact that most HYIP players or “investors” are fully cognizant that HYIP’s are mere Ponzis. The majority “play” the HYIP’s because they like it. And they play again, and again. It’s called gambling. Some like Casinos, some like sports books, others like Ponzis.
As for about 5% to 10% of the people that actually think they can legitimately make 100% per day on some investment, then the term, “a fool and his money is soon parted,” applies.
Aug 16, 2007 at 4:40 pm
-The majority “play” the HYIP’s?-
Well, it does not say ‘play’ anywhere on these webs, where do you see that? All of them I read say “invest” and pays “interest” why? Send me money and you receive ‘interest’ that is not playing…are they wrong and it should say play? Perhaps they misrepresent the facts? LOL
No its not called gambling. A gambling web or casino shows you can win or lose. Gambling establishments do not misrepresent to players that they are investing your ‘bet’ in real estate while the cards are being dealt or the dice roll.
I’ll tell you what, tomorrow set up an HYIP, tell people you are a Las Vegas card gambler and can guarantee them profits. See how many people believe you
Thats funny, its like gambling. People who stand in a Vegas casino are shown the odds and it never reads– invest here 5000$ minimum and get 150% back in 3 days? Ha, plus during a poker game the dealer doesn’t run off with the players money.
-a fool and his money are soon parted- yeah sure…. and he wanted to become a drug addict, he likes heroin he thinks its good for him, we should let him do it right? Ya, she wanted to be raped she was asking for it. I’m not so sure about that reasoning. Sometimes its important to have ethics and make at least an attempt to protect people from the frauds, scoundrels and themselves just making bad decisions.
<p>Ask the tens of thousands of really desperate people who thought they were improving their lives and lost their money. That was the first time they ever tried an online investment because a friend said it was guaranteed on the web. They sent their mortgage money to 12Dailypro, IT4US, OSgold, PIPS, StudioPay and the countless other scams. Ask them if they thought it was playing, gambling fun or an ‘investment’.</p><br />
<p>The other really obvious thing about Pyramid scams and Ponzis is that the Internet did not invent these type of frauds. These things have been around and well documented for perhaps a hundred years that I can find. They have NEVER been legal or ethical. They have never been accepted as OK, or fun, they have always been frauds. </p><br />
<p>Do you think in the 1970’s and 80’s just before the Internet was available that Ponzi’s were accepted or legal? In 1980 if a scam artist told people he was trading stock and stole 3 million of ‘investors’ money and left town was it accepted to say, “well a fool and his money are parted?” no I don’t think it was acceptable then and its not today. </p><br />
<p>Pyramid schemes have always prosecuted as illegal frauds. Just because the Internet was invented does not mean we should all say…well he was stupid to send his money its his fault. These things have never been acceptable in a society with rules and that means every country on earth not just the US.</p><br />
<p>Thanks for your comment but I respectfully do not agree.</p><br />
<p>Mark</p></p>
Aug 23, 2007 at 8:09 am
I am so happy to have found this site and these comments prior to investing anywhere. Before reading the article, I had no idea what a Ponzi scam was or how it worked. Thank you!!!
Aug 27, 2007 at 8:55 am
Hi,
I’m not related in any kind to A3 union and I dont even invest with them. But I just happen to read what you said here, because I was searching about A3union (a friend of mine just spoke me of it and no, he didnt even asked me to join under him). He told me he has been paid twice, I confirmed this with him after reading this blog, he reassured it and even showed me his e-gold account history for proof. So… having read some more info about A3union in the internet, I think you make some serious claims here. It is perfectly possible to offer returns of 200% in 90 days investing in the stockmarket(it gives 2,22 % per day), IF you have the knowledge and the money to do it (usually only BIG players, like banks and very RICH investors can do this). Trading large ammounts of money in stockmarkets you can easilly get daily revenues of 3 to 5%, so they DO get profit without having to get new investors all the time.
I know what is a ponzi scheme, a ponzi scheme does not invests the money, it only collects it and redistributes it (some of them). I dont see any sign that A3 union might be a ponzi scheme (altough I obviously also dont see any sign that they are not).
I saw they had some problems recently regarding payments, but one must considerer that systems can be easily overflowed with people requesting too manny payments of low quantities (below 2.16$ like you say in your article). I work with informatic systems, and I know what’s the result of hundreds of transactions at the same time…
So…with all this said, how do you prove A3union is a ponzi scheme?
Aug 27, 2007 at 9:59 am
You know, I appreciate you taking time to comment here and I’m sorry if this comes off as rude…but, how old are you? Like 10 years old?
How can you come to me with a statement like this:
“”It is perfectly possible to offer returns of 200% in 90 days investing in the stockmarket (it gives 2,22 % per day), IF you have the knowledge and the money to do it (usually only BIG players, like banks and very RICH investors can do this).
Sorry my new anonymous friend, NO THEY DON’T, NO BIG INVESTORS OR SMALL ONES CAN MAKE CONSISTENT 800% RETURNS.
The major players on Wall Street or any other global equities market that create large returns, THOSE FIRMS don’t solicit $10 e-gold Internet investments from strangers while behind a Russian proxy chain.
800% returns do not happen. This is a totally ignoranant comment, YOU DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER SO YOU WANT TO BELIEVE.
Have the fraudulent A3Union Ponzi Scammer Russian operators even proven that they made one stock investment? Where? Show me… now prove to ME that the return on their investments was more than the incoming funds from new victims. You can’t because its a ponzi scam.
You can learn more about day trading stocks in your local library than you can from the fraud Ponzi A3Union. I’ll wrap up my posts on A3Union this week. What a joke.
“…how do you prove A3union is a ponzi scheme?”
First, you prove its NOT a ponzi? Can you do that? Otherwise read my post later this week.
Thanks again but your comments are utterly ridiculous.
Mark
Sep 23, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Well for one, All HYIPs are scams. It’s just that some are actually more reliable than others. You should never completely rely on one HYIP anyways. It’s not smart investing. Anyways, A3Union may fall with in the near future… it is one of the MORE reliable HYIPs out there. So take advantage of it for a little bit. They are paying right now. But don’t expect it to always be there. That’s with any HYIP. So duh! Really you should be more worried about HYIPs that aren’t even paying to begin with. If you invest with HYIPs you should play it smart. If you think just because they pay that they will always, you aren’t very smart. lol So yea… so it might be some kind of scheme or even become one, you should expect that with a HYIP anyways.
Sep 24, 2007 at 6:30 am
Mark, be it ponzi or not, A3 is paying until now, and I’m already in profit, so I dont give a damn. Like Heather said it, this must be played like a game, you cant expect them to pay “ad eternum”. If you are smart, you can win. If you play with stocks, you get the same results, you can win or you can loose, altough the risk is much smaller (but you win far less because of all commissions, taxes, etc…).
I also dont give a damn that you think I’m 10 years old. Also I couldnt care less for the rest of your comments who dont stick to the point, like “your comments are utterly ridiculous” LOL. What kind of argument is this anyway? Am I the one with 10 years old here?
About A3union specifically being a Russian scam, I have read this about them almost a year ago. An investigation that said they were behind a russian proxy… cool! And what if they are in Russia? Cant people be in Russia running a business, while an office to represent the companny be somewhere else in the globe, in an offshore zone? Or cant they have a mirror in Russia?
All I’m sure is that:
1 - They still here;
2 - I’m still being paid and already in profit!
I dont know if they are a scam or not, but if they are, they are a good scam indeed :D.
You know, you can assume that every business is a scam, because everyone is here to make money (even when you sell something, you are making money, so for you to make money, someone else has to loose it for you) and NOTHING lasts forever. Bearing this in mind, every business (online or offline) eventually closes one day, they will run while they can get peoples money and when they cant, the business closes (just like anny scam) ! Its just a question of time as Heather said.
HYIP tend to be quicker and unstable scams, real business tend to be more stable and long term form of scam’s. You can disagree with this, but its just a mather of perspective.
Sep 24, 2007 at 7:12 am
Well, you must be 10 years old if you believe the A3Union bullshit — if you think that world class investors would be soliciting $20 and $50 ‘investments’ from strangers using digital currency you are not only young you are a blithering idiot. You see how this works, statements like ”’…be it ponzi or not, A3 is paying until now, and I’m already in profit”’ well no shit Sherlock, you are the reason the next 3000 idiots will get ripped off. You perpetuate the fraud, you shill for them in order to set up the next group of greedy ignorant sheep. They are the ones who will get burned, you said it yourself, it won’t last forever, no KIDDING, that’s what a PONZI is the largest group if participants gets ripped off.
“”"Like Heather said it, this must be played like a game, you cant expect them to pay “ad eternum”. If you are smart, you can win.”"”
No you dumbass, its not a game, it does not say “come play our game” herein is the FRAUD here is the deception and shows intent to defraud. It says we make ’stock investments’ and that is what the ignorant people believe. Charles Ponzi said he invested in postal coupons, OSgold said they had gold backing, its a LIE, A FRAUD, A SCAM designed to steal money from people. This is how it works, you say “Its great I got paid” and others throw their money at the scam. Ignorant people who don’t know better are not playing a game, it does not say GAME anywhere on the web. If you go to Las Vegas and sit at a blackjack table, the operator does not say, I’m really investing your bet in Real Estate. THAT is a game and participants know it. They know going in, I can win, I can lose but its just a game of odds. It is disclosed UP front. After 10 people at Blackjack win and 20 more show up to play the dealer does not run off in the middle of a hand with the 20 players’ bets. That is how a PONZI works, and you just told people “I got paid, send in your money too” Screw you! You are part of the scam with your statements here.
HYIPs are 100% online digital currency scams. Let me ask you???? Why would A3union close? You say nothing lasts forever and if they are sooooo successful and sooooo profitable wouldn’t they grow perpetually? Who would close their successful operation? I’ll tell you what a few more comments like this one and I’ll really get into them, like you can’t imagine. You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth. Go shill to another group of readers. Go crazy somewhere else, we’re all filled up here.
Mark
Sep 24, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Mark, you are ridiculous.
1. You can and is possible to do 200% in 90 days
which is approximately 3 months.
2. $50 from strangers? You think that’s small? What if 3,000,000 people invested $50? still small?
3. A3 Union exchange the e-gold to money before trading it in stock. I’ve calculated all the fees, it can be overcome easily.
4. A3 Union exchange it back to e-currency before storing it to be paid.
5. You don’t have proof for everything, this is your opinion.
6. You are amateur in HYIP. There’s 2 types: pyramid and non-pyramid (with income)
7. If they’re making money they’ll be there. And every successful business CAN and DO fall.
8. 800% returns do not happen. True, but I thought someone said 200%, how come 800% is here?
9. HYIP higher than 4% are medium risk, higher than 5% are total scams. Using template is also scams because template are cheap. Only program that have no capital will use that.
10. If A3 Union are scam, how come they have Mastercard? And if they fake it, do you think they can use the logo?
11. You are not professional, your “soooo” word is attually used by childish person. No one do that.
12. HYIP means High yield investments. It does not means total scam. HYIP is only a category. It can include pyramid or non-pyramid including programs that can earn alot for real.
Conclusion, please study more. And go study stock market more. IT IS possible to make 200% in 3 months, and someone already did it. ALOT of people did it. Not regular investors, only the big one.
One more thing, C.R is totally correct. You can’t said he isn’t. I think he’s smarter.
Oct 8, 2007 at 7:51 am
Dear Mark,
Let the fools fool themselves.
You just can’t beat them, friend. They’re PRO.
Ng Way Huck - please don’t think next time, it won’t help you anyway.
Oct 8, 2007 at 8:07 pm
If you’re not teasing me jaga, then nevermind.
If you’re teasing me, read below:
1. I’m one of the elite hyip investors. Not the amateur non-logical one.
2. I have my point.
3. I know averagely what is stock market.
4. I know how much a person can earn in 3 month trading stocks.
5. If you don’t believe it it’s none of my business.
I’m earning alot anyway and I don’t need to talk crazy. I just happened to saw the new comment in my mail.
Oct 9, 2007 at 6:52 am
I just dont understand… why the insults? I just posted here to share my point of view… Not being the same as yours (wich I respect and you are PARTIALLY right, 99% of every kind of investment I have seen online are obviously scams), I’am insulted? Oh well…
I just want to add another thing here, about people who lost their money in the past. Whenever you invest/play in something ( be it stocks, a casino or a ponzi, whatever you wish…), there is always a risk of loosing the money. ALWAYS!
You say that “Ignorant people who don’t know better are not playing a game”. I agree with you. But did you know that all of us were born ignorant? I was completly ignorant in this 2 years ago. But I was interested, so I tried to learn about it BEFORE throwing any money on it. And when I did it, I picked a percentage of money I COULD afford to lose witouth compromising my life!
Hell, I lose 30% of my wage in money everyday paying taxes to my country and all I can see is the politicians getting new houses and TOP cars every year, 12 secretaries for each one, trips for familly and friends and other bennefits payd by me and everyone else who works. I’am I not being scamed by my own country? They promisse free education, free health care, etc… All I see is bad roads where my car wretches in the holes(who pays for the fix? me… with another tax on it to help), a trip that should be 15 minutes from my house to my work takes 2 hours in traffic jam, just because building an alternative is too expensive (however we spend money in football fields, because it GIVES MONEY to some people) , I see people waiting in hospitals for operations DYING before they time comes in line and educations is far away from being free, my parents had to pay almost EVERYTHING ( and no my parents werent rich). Justice is ridiculous, proven phedofiles (I dont know if this is the word in english) just because they have money to hire good lawyers, are sent to other countries or even set free and even MAKE MORE money making stupid TV shows when they come out of the “JAIL” (they dont even go to jail, they stay in “domicilliary prevention” LOL what a joke…)!
I tell you this…LIFE is a SCAM. Get used to it, addapt to it and learn to get what you can from it - BE STRONGER, BE SMARTER OR LOSE AND PERISH. Its SAD, but TRUE! I dont like it either, these are not my values, but its the world I live in. We simply live in a society that tries to put us some rules to counter a natural universal law - Survival of the fittest - and it fails. I just say this to get to the point that I play with MY money and I’m not encouranging anyone to put money anywhere, I’m not winning that way! And I advise people who do it to follow a very simple rule: DO NOT PLAY/INVEST MONEY YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE!
Also try to start with small values, so that if you loose, you dont loose too much. And when you win, take your money back ASAP and play/invest with your proffit only.
Altough I dont aprove making money from the ignorance of people, you can’t protect them from stupidity or ignorance… You can inform them and share ideas, but each one must do its homework, make its decisions and protect themselves, if that is its will. As someone said, “let the fools fool themselves.”
Regards,
C.R.
Oct 10, 2007 at 6:31 am
CR, thanks for your comments, but clearly…you have some other unresolved issues at hand you need to work on!
Riddle me this batman:
Two brothers awake one morning. Now, one brother was blessed with brains and his IQ is very high. One brother missed out and while he’s a good guy, he’s not going to college and is not considered smart, he IS considered stupid.
Both brothers share one computer, over the weekend, they stumble onto the A3union web site. Now, one is stupid and one is ignorant. The stupid brother says, “Let’s invest and make big money”.
The ignorant but smart brother says, “hmmm, I’ve never heard of or seen such an investment possibility, let me look around and see what others are saying” They both then query “A3union“, in Google, and find in the number 8 position, my posts showing that a3union is a scam ponzi. The smarter brother reads the information and understands that this size return is not possible from a bunch of strangers on the Internet and finally says, “Now I understand what a HYIP Ponzi is, I’ve seen what happens to investors’ money and I will NOT send my hard earned money. I now understand and choose not to get scammed”
The first stupid brother says, “…but their web seems really nice, this guy even says he got paid well and they have a shiny debit card, I think it sounds good, I’m sending in ALL my money”
There are two groups of people surfing the Internet who send money into these scams, the first group is smart but IGNORANT, meaning they just have not seen this before and don’t understand what is happening. Like paying $5 at the Circus to see the two headed lady, the first time its a thrill, but once you find out that second head is just a mirror reflection, you won’t spend that $5 ever again. Once they read about how the scam works, see all the others who have lost their money and they can easily lose all their hard earned money, the ignorant surfer will pass and NOT throw their money away [invest]. This is the group of people I hope is reading my posts. This is my target audience.
The second group of people, are just plain stupid, they are told its a scam, they are shown how the scam works, they are introduced to thousand of other who lost money BUT they continue to send in their money expecting big returns and claiming they have a system for recognizing that THIS HYIP, this one is a real investment and I’m going to make money. These are the STUPID people, I can’t help the stupid people and that group is not my target audience when I post.
When you -CR- comment here, with your excuses and ‘expert HYIP’ knowledge, you are wasting your time and boring me. I’m not even trying to reach you as a reader, this is not a debate. You won’t convince me I’m wrong, you won’t sway my vote. You reinforce other stupid people’s belief and hope for a better tomorrow. You throw gas on the flames.
I’m simply trying to disclose to ignorant readers, those who simply have not seen one of these before, or heard the sales pitch, I’m showing them what a scam it is and how it works. Those people write me, about a dozen a week now, and tell me “thanks” for showing me how this scam works and preventing me from losing money. Those people are my target audience, not you. You are in the stupid group, so good luck with that.
Insulting, YES, and more of that to come. Here’s why….what you do with your comments…..its like there is a guy in my ‘family oriented neighborhood’ selling crack cocaine on the street corner and I’m telling people stay away. I’m not calling the cops on him, I clean my own house. I’m explaining to people ‘this is bad’. Then you come in with comments and try to tell me, “well crack is not really bad, its just the addicts who have a problem, there are plenty of people who have a great profitable time using and selling drugs.” “Drugs are OK”
I understand your routine, get out of my neighborhood. Ponzi’s stop using digital currency and get out of this industry. You bring trouble, dispare and more crime, GET OUT.
Oct 10, 2007 at 9:08 am
You have gained a complete adversity against any kind of investment that implies some risk … I dont blame you, its completly normal with all the SCAMS there are and I completly agree with your last words.
The question is, you are assuming everything is a complete SCAM… maybe it is…but its possible even with 100% of opportunities being scams, to make money out of them. Simply assume in the beggining this risk and count with it! And I dont want to change your or anyone else mind, in fact, I advise everyone whos doesn’t have enough information to dont throw away its money in any investment until you know enough and accept the risks you are taking.
Batman answer: Neither of the brothers is smart.
Not doing anything can’t be said to be smart. Its being amorph and not taking advantage of what you learn’t. Just staying in your confort zone forever won’t get you in trouble, but also wont get you anywhere. Keep the money under your bed. Its safe there! But what it does for you? Zero, Niente, Nada.
Risking ALL the money in one thing is even far away from being smart. TIP for EVERYTHING in life: DIVERSIFY the risk! This means, in this case, you dont put all your money in one place. That is completly dumb, be it done here or in the stock market or everywhere. Just try to put all your money in your favorite stock and see what happens.
Example of smart answer would be: Ok, now I know what a scam is, I know how to identify one in general. Or I can assume every online opportunity is a scam and its a question of timming if you loose or win money. Why not develop a strategy that allows me, investing with small quantities of money, to search for opportunities (risky ones, yes) online that pottentially might work? I’ll put like, 50$ aside from my moth/year income (money I would someother way waste in useless things and lose anyway) for this and try and see what its possible, assuming from the beggining I will probably lose this money, thus completly lowering my expectations, but at the same time, being EXTREMLY selective where I put the money. Worst case scenario is: I loose $50. Best case, I can double this money in some months. Of course, if you are risk adverse, this is no place for you, put your money in a bank, with luck you can get up to 4%/year, not risking anything. But even 4%/year is only something usefull if you have a HUGE bank account (and in that case you can easily request a higher interest rate). But even that is smarter than doing nothing.
Ah, one more thing, there are no SYSTEMS. You always risk your money. Even in a bank, you have a risk, really small one, but its there, always! Any bank can, at any time, declare its finnancially broke and you lose your money! You think its impossible? I give you an example scenario: any bank would bankrupt if 80% (or even lower percentages) of the money from clients was requested to be withdrawed at the same time!
The only REAL safe place is under your bed!
Adressing your “Drugs question” now:
Drugs ARE NOT OK and that comparisson is not a good one. You dont invest in drugs, you dont “play” drugs. Once you buy drugs, you never see that money back again. the objective is getting an illegal product. It’s a completly different issue here.
And yes, I must agree with you Mark, its a waste of time writting in here, but its fun and I’m not even risking anything. Besides, I’m giving you free content for your blog to rank higher in google (and this means more proffit for you from addsense ;) - cool - you are (or your blog program is - if thats the case, I advise you to change it to another one where you get part of the revenue) indirectly making profit from the mere existence of HYPS !!! Thats being smart!
Oct 10, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Guys guys !! Are you all crazy?
HYIP IS just a category, it can involved ponzi, pyramid, or real company.
High yield investments program stated clearly,
You can get high profits from it. NOT always game and ponzi. Heard of google adsense, well I tell you it’s not HYIP but I considered it as one. Why? You put ads on a websites, if that websites of yours got no traffic you spend to promote it right? That spending is investments. Therefore, “HYIP”. Most elite HYIP investors will only spot the real investments, and yes it exist. 80% are scams / ponzi, not 99% which is a make-believe.
Let me state one thing clear, you CAN and WILL BE ABLE to make 200% profits in 3 months if you’re professional and you invest in High Yield stocks everyday. It is possible and you CAN do it.
A3 Union = Assistance 247 Ltd
If anyone don’t believe it, go search on Yahoo you’ll find this company. It isn’t scam. If they are, do you think they can issue Mastercard? If they don’t issue it for real, do you think they can even USE the logo? No.
Some of you seems to argue with smart language or facts. But let me tell all of you clear, if any of you think A3 Union is ponzi, PROVE IT. Any proof?
As some of those who said A3 Union is ponzi, I bet you can’t prove it. We need proofs to take these days, not just “3-inches tongue”
A3 Union is paying and not ponzi. If someone don’t believe it, leave it. We don’t need extra overload on A3 withdrawal server anyway. We can withdraw more easily without any strange offender surfing it.
I’m one of the elite investors who trained some amateur into pro-investors of HYIP. I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I’d definitely won’t be joining A3 Union with $10,000
Although I agreed it’s very hard to withdraw from A3 Union I still manages to withdraw alot. More than my principal. Anyone wanna miss the ride? Bye then.
Oct 10, 2007 at 8:12 pm
I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I’d definitely won’t be joining A3 Union with $10,000
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Corrections:
I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I’d definitely wont be joining A3 Union with $10,000 if it’s a ponzi.
Nov 24, 2007 at 9:52 am
Have you heard of the Pigeon King investment plan. The farmer buys several hundred pigeon pairs at $500 per pair and PKI agrees to buy back the offspring for $50 each. The math shows this to be highly profitable. Is this an investment opportunity or a Ponzi scheme?
Nov 26, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Really a good discussion (and bad insult).
C.R. and Ng Way Huck, could please email me at d3wangga@yahoo.com since I do not know your email? I would like to know more about HYIP (perhaps, you might teach me about HYIP?)
He who knows that he knows is a master, Follow him
He who knows that he does not know can be taught, teach him
He who does not know that he knows is asleep, wake him up
He who does not know that he does not know is a fool, leave him!
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